An Interview with Nancy Lieder...

cassyIn Greek Mythology, there is a story of a woman named Cassandra was cursed to have the ability to be able to know how the future unfolded yet have no one believe her when she made her prophesies only to have them come true. 

So is the fate of Nancy Lieder. 

To the unknowing eye, Lieder would appear in every way to be your run of the mill, middle aged house wife.  But that couldn't be further from the truth...

From an early age, Nancy Lieder has been in constant communication (both physical and telepathically) with a group of nancy-1extraterrestrials known to her (and us) only as the Zetas.  Over the years, the Zetas have given Nancy many messages about a myriad of things- from Stonehenge to Bigfoot- as well as made some starting predictions about the changes we are experiencing on Earth and the passing of Planet X... all of which she has been documenting on her Zetatalk website since 1995.

She recently had a discussion with our very own Thom Acee about a medley of topics, including the passing of Planet X, devastating Earth changes, and an underground alien hybridization program.

Join us, won't you...

The Nancy Lieder Interview

Nancy, it is good of you to give u this chance to chat.

Before we get to the message, let's flesh out the messenger a little if you will.  Can you tell us a bit about yourself?  What was your life like before you got contacted?

Well actually I was contacted as a child, my estimate maybe 7, 8 years old.  Out in the woods I would see little Zetas popping out from behind the trees.  And I was always very close to nature, loved it; [I would run around] barefoot, like a little tomboy climbing trees, down there catching frogs.  They would pop out there just like any little wild creature and I didn't feel them threatening.  Ever since then we have been contacting each other frequently.

My role as a communicator, spreading this message, was one that I chose because the humans choose contact; the humans choose their role, but the alien visitors may or may not choose to support a human in their role. I got support.  And because it was so successful, the Zeta Talk website and message rolling around the world in all different countries and being translated into different languages, they had to actually shuffle their priorities and put more people behind Zeta Talk.

How did you start receiving these messages?  Is it psychic imagery or do they talk to you like we are?

Actually it is sort of like daydreaming... Daydreaming but with a conversation.  It’s not that you hear a voice; it's not like schizophrenia, hearing a voice in your head.  it is actually like a thought that pops into my head but it's conversational- you can go back and forth, say ask a question about the concept and get a response and I am absolutely certain that it is not me because this has been verified with so many times that they have delivered scientific information that man didn't even know about and after I published it on the website it would come out that the Zetas were right and Mankind would say "oh we NOW know that..."  Kind of like correcting the flat Earth concept.

We humans are not the brightest... Our visitors are much brighter than we are... much more educated and so therefore it could not have been Nancy.  I could give you specific examples.

If you could, please...

One of them is... I did have math in high school but I don't use math in my daily activities nor in my career so therefore I don't speak math, other than simple algebra.  But In any case, the issue came up about this rogue planet that comes through to cause pole shifts every three thousand six hundred years or so...

Planet X...

planetx-2Planet X, Nibiru... it goes by different names.  It is with us now, near the sun.

Ya know, the giant hominoids that live on there who used to hope over to the earth to mine gold and built the Great Pyramids, built the Sphinx... brutalized young Man.  Our culture was very primitive compared to theirs those thousands of years ago and they were known as the "Gods of Mount Olympus", the Visigoths.

They instituted the cruelty against man... tear the hearts out and the like as a way of intimidating Man to go into the gold mines and "mine for us".  El Dorado... They had an obsession with gold because they needed it for their traveling planet which is a smoldering brown dwarf.  It’s actually something that’s not even in the definition that human astrophysics have because it's not bigger than Jupiter, about to become a sun. It's not gaseous.  It is a planet and it emits light as well as heat from its core.

So the hominoids had to be giants. [They] Were eight foot high, their bone and muscles went along with it.  It’s not a growth hormone- skinny, tall thing that we sometimes have in humans. They are just stocky- big.  And so the issue came up over what’s the size and the gravity pull of their planet if it's bigger than Earth.  And the Zetas had me say it is fifty percent greater than on Earth.  In other words, 1.5 [times] the gravity pull of Earth. Well somebody wrote back to me and said "Well wait, that don't make sense.  If it has a mass twenty three times that of Earth, wouldn't that make the gravity pull twenty three times more?" and I said "Oh boy, that doesn't seem logical, does it."  And then I found out through this continuing conversation that in fact the computation that Man was already aware of would put their gravity pull at 1.6 times the gravity pull of Earth.  I had no notion of that computation.  I had no notion of that when I gave that Zeta  answer.  And this is the type of thing I do every day, every week so that I know that it's proof positive.  Live interviews this is done.  On the air, on the radio, ect.

So it's not Nancy who only had a high school degree.  She's not dumb, but she's not educated.  It is the Zetas that talk.  

So they are talking to you all the time, essentially?

Yea, it is kind of like having somebody in the room.  I got a cat sitting on my PC monitor right now looking at me... she likes to hang around.

Telepathic conversations are like that.  It’s continuous, sort of like chatting with a family member that's in the house.

So it's like a fluid conversation that never starts or stops.  It’s just always there...

That's right.  And where there are formalities, like when I have a question and answer session weekly that I post answers to, we actually arrange time for that .  I say "well, what do you wanna do ...  wanna do the geology questions this session" and then they assemble geologists- their geologists and sociologists.  And some of them are obviously poets.  They have their specialties, same way we do.


Going back a little bit with what you were saying about "Planet X"... it sounds a lot like the Zechariah  Sitchin theory.

sutchen-3Yea.  Sitchin addressed this rogue planet and did an excellent job translating the ancient Sumerian language and it was Nibiru that came through every three thousand six hundred years.  Documented how they (the Sumerians) were aware of planets that we weren't aware of until the 1930s.  They counted out to in so we were the third planet from the sun but we count in out.  We only became aware of Pluto in 1930, but they were aware of it way back the- thousands of years ago.

But Sitchin was a bit nervous about saying when it [Nibiru] would return and the Zetas said that it is the "Not in my lifetime" syndrome.  He had first was saying probably not for a thousands of years and I guess recently had came down to saying maybe in sixty years...

Well, it arrived in the inner solar system in 2003.

Almost all cultures have some prophecy and folklore about this.  It’s called Herclulibus in South America, Wormwood in the Bible... I'm trying to think of what culture doesn't address it.  I recently got some Javanese prophecy from Santo somebody or other five hundred years ago that was describing what is happening now in Java as the Earth changes pick up.  Mother Shipton about it.

And the Egyptians were terrific about recording past passages.  The Flood was one and the Egyptian Exodus was another and that is registered in the Kolbrin, [which] is kind of like the Bible except for what the Egyptians put in it.  But it was taken up by some Monks in Scotland that cluttered it with Bible talk.

The Bible itself, in the Book of Exodus and the Revelations, talks about the coming time and the last pole shift which was the Jewish Exodus.

So you are saying that the Jewish Exodus from Egypt coincided with Planet X's arrival?

Yes. It was the last passage.  Ya know, they had this huge volcano that blew up in the Mediterranean, the Santerini- I believe I got that right.  It is sometimes called Thera and it was twenty times more powerful than Kraccatoa that blew up in 1882.

And it was a huge volcano blast.  now what would allow Moses to escape from [Egypt] with his people- little moses4old ladies and toddlers and lay people to escape as slaves from their Egyptian slave masters and wander off like that.

And also the red dust, the signature of this passing planet.  It’s basically iron oxide dust that is charged and clings to it and shrouds it because this planet is a big magnet which is why we have pole shifts.

So Thera and Santerini is estimated at 1621 BC- Before Christ- nobody knows for sure. I mean, how do we get an exact date on rock.  It’s a guess. There was no record keeping.

The Egyptians stopped their record keeping, stopped taking census and the like.  Civilization grinds to a halt after a pole shift because there are so many earthquakes, so many tidal waves... people starving and wandering, looking for food.  They don't bother with record keeping so that the Egyptians kept the Kolbrin, this exact record of what happened in the Flood and the Jewish Exodus was wonderful.  It's the best record we have of what goes on.

Let's talk about "Pole shift".  What do the Zetas tell you about it?

This [Planet X] is a big magnet and it ends up getting the Earth caught in front of it.  it swings into the sun- and it did so in 2003 and we tracked it very carefully in the night sky according to the Ra and Dek (which I describe as being kind of an "x" and "y" position in the sky) and when we tracked it then it was like a dim star that wasn't on the star charts and when we took a CCD image two weeks later from a rented observatory it had moved to the new spot and wasn't  at the old spot so this was an absolutely accurate trajectory and it arrived in the early spring of 2003.  I, myself, saw it in the evening sky on March 26, almost exactly where the Zetas said it would be seven years earlier.  That’s how accurate their track record was computing just where it would appear in the skies.

So it's a huge magnet and it zooms towards the sun.  But there is something called the gravity repulsion force, which is what keeps our moon up there since its way to heavy and moving way too slowly to be kept up there by centrifugal force.  We demonstrated that while debating the astronomers on Ciastro; when they discovered that their own math showed them that it was not possible for it  to be up there, they got all befuddled and stuff and stopped talking to me.  But we won that debate .  It's still there on my websites, under the "Ciastro Debates".

OK, so now it comes in in 2003, it's pointing it's North Pole at the South Pole because it comes in from Orion, which is a bit south of the South Pole of the Sun.  It creeps by it, it has momentum.  It swings through and now it's on the other side of the Sun and it's approaching the Ecliptic.  It’s at an angle up toward the Ecliptic, it swung its North Pole out towards the Earth and creating all kinds of havoc with our magnetic fields which shows up on a magnetic simulator.


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I had read something about that on the internet as well... something about our magnetosphere is weakening and no one knows why...

Yea, this is real dramatic.  You know there is a deforming part to the south of the Boshock and NASA says "oh it's four times the size of the Earth". Well guess what?  This planet is four times the diameter of Earth!  It is so clearly a magnetic influence between the Earth and the Sun because the Sun will be completely asleep most times- no sun spots, no nothing- and we get all this strange twisting where the Earth's magnetosphere show that it is losing its South Pole and it's all twisted like spaghetti and very dramatic. 

There's a blog, Poleshifting, that talks about this.  They almost daily have what's going on there.  And on my website I have a lot of that too. It’s known to people who are looking at this... that's there's no correlation with what's going on around the Sun, but NASA won't tell you that.

Getting back to the Pole Shift, it is when this planet - which ends up trapping us like a dear in a headlight in front of it, which we are already trapped in front of it- slings over our head with all kinds of twisting and turning, the "Three Days of Darkness", that type of thing.  Rotation of the Earth actually stops.

it gets us in a magnetic and a gravitational grip, primarily gripping the [North] Atlantic Rift- which is a big surface magnet on the surface of the Earth- and then when it flies over head, it pulls the South Pole up and pushes the North Pole away- you know magnets don't like North Poles pointing at each other- and the crust and the core both move and because  it is such a violent move that within an hour the core breaks away from the crust and keeps moving but the Crust kind of stays where it was shoved and the core swims around and turns- you know it can swim there in the magma- the upright end where it sits in there. So this year it's going to be- no not this year but when this time comes, when it happens I dunno months or a couple of years- it's gonna be horrific.

So we have a ninety percent switch with Antarctica and the Arctic will be on the equator, Alaska, ya know, very tropical.  Europe will be almost on the Equator, ect.

Couple other places that were more tropical- like India or just below the bulge in Brazil-are going to be very cold.

This sounds like something out of a disaster film...

Well actually they have a lot of disaster films that have been hinting at this.  They talk about aspects of it, like water worlds- where suddenly the water is too high- or there's a volcano erupting in the middle of LA or 2012 and the Sun explodes. 

knowing6It's always the Sun, like in  Knowing also... "Oh the Sun is going to explode".  But they never talk about a passing planet because it would be too close to the truth and they are not allowed to.  There has been a huge National Security cover up about talking about the fact that NASA knows about this planet, they are watching it all the time.  they tracked it, they went up and took a look at it in infra red, above the atmosphere with an infra red balloon in 1983 and this even hit the front page [of the] Washington Post in 1983.

I have that article on my website.  You can get it if you  go to the library and look in the microfiche. December 31, 1983, front page at the bottom of the page, Washington Post... There it is.

And t hen the cover-up snapped in and they [NASA] said "oh never minid, never mind... We didn't find it."

So there's a cover up.  You can't [talk about it]...

The earth is currently wobbling, the moon and the Sun are not in the right place often.  The moon is way off.  At noon and full it's where it should be but the other two times its way too south or way too north and people notice this.

They put up YouTube videos like crazy about this.  But you don't hear about it on the evening news.  There’s a huge cover-up.

Some people see two suns rising or setting because the dust clouds on this planet (Planet X)is coming outbound towards us from the Sun.  Even in 2003, when the angle was right, sunlight glints off that shrouding dust cloud and comes back to our eyes on Earth.  And people say "oh I saw the Sun rise... and then I saw it rise again!"  Same thing with setting.

Same thing happened in 2003 when this thing was first happening.  The weathermen would sometimes allow this to happen behind them.  They would film the sunrise live and people would say "The weatherman jerked around and said 'Holy Cow!' and things like that.

Well then they stopped this, filming it live, and they got weathermen that were more controlled [and] don't talk about that.

It's a big cover-up among astrologers- astronomers, pardon me- Astronomers, the weathermen are told to watch what they talk about, certain talking heads...

roker-scott7So is that why Al Roker took over for Willard Scott on the Today Show?

Probably so, you know... Anybody who was too emotional was removed.  They had to be very well controlled and speak about inane things not important things.


So obviously we can't trust our Governments to tell us about this impending doom.  And why would they... what could anyone do.  But there have to be signs that this is occurring.

Well there are signs.  Is the weather normal?

In 1995 the Zetas talked about what would happen with the weather and crop shortages.  All of that has unfolded completely.  They talked about high tides ect. And that's happened.  They have talked about increasing albinism in wildlife- in other words the "white buffalo" does not come about by accident.  There is a Hopi... an Indian prophecy.  It’s because the swirling core puts emanations out that cave creatures are susceptible to.

You know fish and things like that in caves have no coloration.  They don't need it.  There's no light there , they can't get sunburned.  So it's that same emanation that is influencing creatures like the white buffalo to go all albino.

Interesting...

So many predictions that the Zetas have made that have come true... The increased earthquakes, the increase of volcanism.  You know, we have more volcanoes active now that [ever] in the memory of Man.  Thos was in fact in a post ten years ago and it even gotten {unintelligible}...

They have been very specific about geological changes...

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Like what?

Well they talked about- a year ago, I was privy to information about what they called the "Seven of Ten Scenarios".  Where this started from was people said if you consider "ten of ten" to be the Pole Shift, "Nine of Ten" to be the Last Weeks, like the "Three Days of Darkness", then where are we now?

Well we are currently at "Six of Ten" and what will be "Seven of Ten", there were several scenarios right around the equator basically.  Indonesia, there's a plate tongue that is really attached to the Great Eur-Asian plate that holds Indonesia. 

And that is going to sink underneath the curve of the plate holding India and Australia.  Then South America is going to roll- pinned at the tip, but rolls its top part like an ice cream cone falling to the left towards the West.  Roll over as it did push the Caribbean plate down sinking Caribbean islands.

And then Africa would roll, pinned at the tip, but it would roll to the East you know toward... ripping itself apart some more in the Rift Valley there in the Red Sea, ect. Sinking the Mediterranean floor above Algeria and then we get into some other things, including the New Madrid...

But let's take those three, which were the First Three.

OK...

But over the year, there you go.. Son of a gun... here we go.  They said India would tilt slightly.  And all of this has not happened yet , but they said the trend would be unmistakable.  So, over this past year they (the Zetas) said that India would a little bit on its West side and rise a teeny bit- maybe ten to twelve feet on the East side. 

Well Pakistan's rains are still not draining from July.

And here we go with Jakarta with all the roads along its canals collapsing because they are sinking.  And this is not rising sea levels.  And all the volcanoes going off around Sumatra and Java and Manabí... aliens9remember Obama having all that trouble with travel there recently...

And this is all in step with what their predictions were.  South America is pushing and rolling.  There's land just off of Columbia- in the sea there where it's the border between the Caribbean and South American plates has lost elevation.  Suddenly at the same time the mountain building along the New Andes Fault is just crumbling villages up there.

Even Panama for the first time in its hundred year history had to close the locks because there was too much water.  And that's rain?

This just happened this last week... Panama is sinking... it's on the Caribbean Plate and being pushed down, right...

And Africa likewise... All of the sudden we are getting all kinds of hammering earthquakes there just at the end of the red sea.

So this trend is already happening in accordance with the Zeta predictions and nobody else makes these predictions.

Did the Zetas predict anything would happen to North America?

The nasty New Madrid stuff...After these three things happen, then we're going to have- well- actually after Indonesia goes down, something happen in the Pacific where the Philippine and the Marianas plate kind of fold against each other.   Japan has a bunch of quakes and then -BOOM- over to North America and the New Madrid adjustment, which will be is currently...  the land is under a diagonal stress.  New England area is being pulled to the East and the Mexico tip is being pulled to the West.  So it creates a bowl- from the ellucian islands in the east to the tip of Mexico and San Diego, where they are having all these snapping water mains and have been for some time.

So North America is under stress but it can't roll like South America or Africa can because if you take a look at platetechtonics , we are the flat top.  The North American Plate goes from Japan all the way, shooting through to Iceland... It's one straight line.  So a straight line does not roll so therefore we are under stress and what happens???  We get a New Madrid adjustment.  We get a diagonal pull where southwest of the Mississippi gets pulled south and west and the other part moves up northeast and it will rip. The New Madrid Fault line actually runs all the way along the seaway and then there is a sister fault line that runs up along the East Coast.  That's why the bells in Boston rang when the New Madrid went off in 1818.  

So it's just going to spit us in half?

No.  It’s going to rip all the Mississippi [river] bridges, drop land to the west of the Mississippi so that the Mississippi widens to fifty miles wide. From the south of Illinois down there’s a different rock strata... if you take a look at rock strata, it's amazing... And of course it is going to shatter every city that we can think of just about.

And then after that happens the West Coast will slip slide along the San Andrea, and the volcanoes will go off but this will not be the big magnitude 8 or 9 earthquakes that the New Madrid adjustment will involve.

But worse than that comes to Europe right after or almost simultaneous to that New Madrid adjustment .

And by New Madrid I am talking about "The Big One", the magnitude 9 that tears those bridges, ect. Not any little 5,6,or 7 that might be happening...


So Europe is going to get it?

Europe is going to get a tsunami. 

As North America adjusts, the North Atlantic will rip open- it's already ripping open... it's called Continental Drift but it's really Continental Rip, right under the influence of Nibiru, Planet X as it passes.

And it will rip open and the water will pour into that rip, rebound and because the Gulf Stream currently whooshes all water in the direction of Europe, right... up, curls around Greenland and goes down along Europe... The Rebound will carry all this water towards Europe.

They're predicting 200 foot tsunami hitting the UK, which in the Bristol channel will- because of tidal bore- become 300 foot high and places like Norway and Spain have thirty, fifty, maybe seventy foot tsunami.  Of course this rolls around the UK and roars over Denmark- which is lost... just lost- and what warning will they have?  Unless their governments are willing to say "Oh my gosh, the New Madrid had hit.  Everybody head for the hills." those people are going to drown suddenly and be scoured out.

This seems like it will lead to catastrophic death tolls...

Yea, there will be a lot of death.  And it will be a wakeup call, that's what the Zetas have called it.  This is the "Seven of Ten Scenario"... the "Eight of Ten" they are not even describing... they said "you're not really getting it... When we talk about this stuff happening it’s an intellectual exercise for you.  You say 'OK this will happen...and I will be under a hundred feet of water... and ok... but you are not reacting to it like it is a reality.' but after the "Seven of Ten Scenario" they expect- to the extent that the public is allowed to hear their predictions and their words- they will get it.  The Public will get it.

The Zetas seem rather detached from humanity... do they look at us like a great pet or something?

alien-randoOh no... No no no.

I would have to say this is more like Peace Corps.  Are you familiar with that... college students could take a couple of years out, they could go to some third world country and um...

 

Try to civilize savage lands...

Well, you know, help a culture get windmills up or windmills to pump water so they don't have to carry it by hand... That type of thing.  It’s basically not a self motivated thing.  It’s not considering the people in Third world countries to be a pet... You consider them to be humans just like you but they're in a situation where they don’t have the resources.

Obviously, they are more intelligent- all the visitors are-

The Zetas are not... "We have a thousand different life forms" the Zetas said '... or more..."

This goes all the way to intelligent jellyfish... I met one that was like a gigantic ameba, like a rug on the floor, and he wrapped around my ankle to communicate with me.  You have no idea how weird life forms are, you know... intelligent bugs, bird forms... Most planets that develop intelligent life are water planets.  Crop circles are laid down by water creatures... there's water in those ships.

This is how they can be of assistance. They come out of their good heartedness to try to warn Mankind of what's coming.  They are not allowed to go and interfere and say "OK, we are going to cure cancer, feed everybody on Earth... everybody will be beautiful and we will stop Planet X"  because of the rules about this being our spiritual schoolhouse.

We are supposed to learn how to help each other...

So there is Quarantine on the Earth...

It's a non-interference rule... not quarantine.. A non-interference rule...

Like the "Prime Directive" in Star Trek?

StarTrek11Yea, but if you want a consultation... if you are fretting about something, wringing your hands and you said "oh what to do and this or that..." you are in essence giving the call requesting consultation.  And you will get an offer from Visitors to talk to them about it.  This is known as "becoming a contactee" - because of your request- and you can say "Oh no... No, no never mind... I didn't realize I was calling you ."  I'll talk to my family minister about it, not to a bunch of weird looking guys.  You know, you can say no... You are in control.  But now be aware... approximately 5%of all out visitors are down here talking to the approximate 5% of humanity which is not good hearted.  They are greedy.  And they are called the Service to Self.  They have never grown up and learned how to care for others as much as themselves.  They are still just as selfish as a newborn baby.  So if you give the wrong call... If your desire is not to help your neighbor or what to do about someone who is in pain that you care about... If your desire is to figure out how to get rid of your neighbor so you can make out with his wife, you're giving the call to the Service to Self and they are not nice people.

They will lie to you.  They will misguide you...

They sound like demons to me...

Yes... Yes... exactly... they can't harm you, they can't run off with you... but they can give you bad advice.

And all this Satanic rituals kind of stuff... that's really based on people just trying to get something for nothing by giving a call to those characters.

So there are War like aliens? Or are they all benevolent?

Yes, the Service to Self type.

The way it’s structured... It's young worlds where souls can be sparked, then they continuingly reincarnate forever, right, and become better and wiser and more massive.  But we are a young world where souls are sparked- in other words, born- and on those worlds, those souls aren't really service to others or service to self.. They are just trying to figure it out.

That's the first lesson.. The first thing to be settled...

But after that, there is a separation and the five percent (on average)that stay service to self are then sent off to a prison planet to live with each other and that's what the Zetas say is Hell. It’s not a burning place... it's where you have to live... Dick Cheney and George W. Bush are gonna have to live with each other and argue about who has to clean the toilet.


On a Planet filled with other Dick Cheney’s and George Bushes and they may be a thousand times worse than them...

Exactly.  Brutal. Genghis khan... Not necessarily Hitler... Apparently he was undecided...

How is Hitler undecided???  I would think his record would speak for itself...

hitler-alien13Hitler wasn't truly evil.  He was basically a manipulated child... he was a manipulated spiritual child and he is still being counseled, ya know... He hasn't got yet full bore in that direction.  But the people that set up his, ya know, where they experimented on other humans and stuff like that... they were solidly Service to Self.

And then the Good Guys get to live with each other and that's what the Earth is going to become a hundred years from now when it's fully transformed and the people have died off and moved on or reincarnated back in here along with a lot of different aliens from many different cultures are gonna be among us.  It's gonna be intergalactic, high tech... No need for money, everybody works on the common good, share what they have... and that is called a Service to Others community.

It sounds like a John Lennon song playing out in a Star Wars movie...

lucas-spielberg-14Well there's a lot of that...

 Authors, producers, artists, musicians... many of these are contactees.  They are taken off world, shown what life elsewhere is like.  ya know, in Star Trek that fascinating bar scene with all these weird looking aliens- which most of them are hominoid looking, but not all- and Watto, who has wings and rises up and he looks like a flying cockroach or something like that with bad teeth... There were take offs on actual aliens.  They are taken as contactees to see all this because they are expected to be influential

I kind of got this thought before, when you were describing how the etas contact you... if not familiar with the idea of that being Zeta communication, could it not be interpreted by George Lucas or someone like Gene Rodenberry (who was as influential in science fiction as much as he was in directing actual science) not as a message from a higher intelligence but rather a spark of "Divine Influence"?

Exactly... They may not be aware that they are contactees. And I think some of these people are star children, souls that evolved elsewhere and have been around for a time on many different cultures and many different worlds and they have elected to come to Earth.

You said that Jesus, Buddha, and Mohammed are star children in fact...

That's what the Zetas say.. Yes, yes...

And people have asked "Is Jesus going to return?  He said 'When I return...' ", they said "This is spoken in allegory fashion.  When he says "I will return" or "we will return" He is saying "the Service to Others will return at some time in the future.

So He himself won't come but something else...

Others who are highly Service to Other and that is true today of all the visitors.  We are just swarming with alien visitors, by the way, just swarming.  And people were saying "well can't He come back?" and they said "No, He's busy on another world with a similar mission that He had on Earth, teaching the Golden Rule ect.

  So Jesus is busy setting up franchises?

alien-christ10Yea, this is what He does.  He’s good at it and He knows it.  And He does this and goes from world to world creating this kind of mystique, ya know... a message, which the Zetas said that you can't say the Bible is His word.  He never wrote anything down.  He repeated things verbally until they could not get lost.  Things like the Golden Rule.. Love the least of those among you

The message that seems to echo within all the major world religions.

Right.  And this is the theme in the great religions. Mohammed was not a Jihad guy.. And Jesus wasn't an Inquisitions guy... And the same thing with Buddha.  He wasn't just sit around, eat and get fat and laugh...

That was not their message...

That's all that "Service to Self"/Human interest that got mixed up afterwards...

Yes, that's right... twisted it for human reasons.

Now you talk about a Hybridization program.  Can you talk about that a little?

Yea, and the Zetas even go down into the physiology of... in the future we will not fart, for instance...

That stinks...

Mixing Zeta and Human genes- and it's kind of a Petri dish thing... something are selected out.  They were tasked with getting rid of "Blind Rage", which developed in humanity because we have these big carnivores - saber toothed tigers and all- blind rage was often what kept the... allowed the troop to escape up  into the trees or something...

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It was something we developed to better survive in our savage world.

Exactly.  Somebody in the troop would go into a blind rage and allow the rest of the troop escaped.  And sometimes that actually pushed away the predator...

So those kinds of things need to get snipped out... a lot of genetic diseases, ect.. We are supposed to have a higher IQ... our IQ will be like the Zetas, average 287, our lifetimes will be [like] theirs, average 400.  We will be very skinny and have bigger heads.. Bald.  Big eyes, but they won't be  big black eyes. They will be colored eyes,, like we have.

And they will have sex, start the baby at least in the womb but because of big heads they end up growing their babies in test tubes. But they said it does not mean that the babies don't feel love because you send them vibes.

If Hybridization is such a good thing between Humans and the Zetas then why keep it under wraps?

Well it's not a secret.  Contactees talk about it all the time.  You know, if you read the earlier Contact books, this one will say "oh, I was pregnant " or "I was taken on a ship and they laid a baby in my arms and I just knew it was mine and then they took it away", ya know... they are talking about this a lot, way back in the John Mack days


But if the Zetas are so positive about it and it is such a good thing, then why isn't every abduction story as positive as yours?  Why is there so many that describe a humiliation and torture?

Because the Government... The CIA and certain elements of the Government do not want you to be cozy with the aliens.

So it's disinformation?

Mostly, almost entirely it is disinformation because of "The Earth is ours" syndrome.  Organized religion is very touchy about this.  The Pope only recently- The Catholic Religion only recently said "OK intelligent life may be elsewhere and they may not be demons".  But up until last year everyone thought that...

That they were demons... That's what I was told in a few catholic schools... That they were demons sent to shake our belief in God.

alien-probe18Exactly.  And it is possessive.  They own you  the Organized Religion Hierarchy owns you and they'll tell you what to think.  And the same thing is true with Government.  The Department of Defense, are they going to admit that aliens exist and those are their space ships because they can't protect the earth then .  People will say "what good is it giving you all types of guns and stuff because you're impotent against this force", right?

And they don't like being talked about in that manner. So everybody is trying to protect their turf and they have touchy egos about "I'm in charge...I’m special... I'm the one Mankind should look up to" and so they don't want you getting told.  But they can't stop it because aliens go directly to the People.

Most of this stuff, it's not abduction.  It’s contact.  Abduction is a term generated by this group of humans and still today contactees were punished if they were trying to send a different message.  john err... trying to say John Hopkins... not sure if that's the guy I’m thinking of... he writes books about how awful it is and everybody is tortured and frightened.  And John Mack had a different message... He said 'oh no, there is something else going on here' and of course John Mack was run down in the streets in I think it was the UK a couple of years ago.  He was killed.

This is what goes on with that kind of message but they are losing so rapidly... Contactee growth is on such an upswing that it is like a total losing battle. just like they are running chemtrails in the sky to fog it up so people can't see the evidence of Planet X and its many moon swirls and dust cloud, ect in the sky... that's what chemtrails is all about...

You yourself had a hybrid baby, didn't you?

Yes I did.  And I participated.  It was primarily in my teens.  I didn't get married and start having babies till I was 19, 20 or so and up until that time they collected ova and even let me carry the baby for a couple of weeks.  And I thought nothing of it.  They explained that they needed my help.  You asked about how every contactee does not talk about this... It follows the family line.  They started this maybe now it's sixty, seventy years ago... actively creating the hybrids for this time, when the pole shift would hit, but they were probably working on this for a few hundred years before that too.  But they started in earnest and collecting DNA [sixty, seventy years ago].  And following this family line is necessary because of what they describe as DNA weaving... weaving... weaving back in some DNA that was left out or to strengthen it. I use that term because the Zetas told me to use that term and then I heard from geneticists that I didn't know how accurate I was... that's exactly what goes on when you do genetic engineering... you weave DNA you are trying to get in or maybe haven’t gotten in infallibly.

So hybrids are done through genetic engineering, not the "old fashioned way"?

alien_sex_17yea, but they collect sperm and ova... it's the genetic contribution... then it's Petri dish, snipping, and whatever else goes on and then you insert it back in the mother usually for a couple of weeks or more, depending.  That's where a contactee would say "Oh I was pregnant for two weeks and it was confirmed..." and then it disappeared and the doctor said "I don't know what happened... it just vanished...".

Did you ever meet your hybrid baby?

I did.  And I had just one of them. I was nineteen and I was babysitting- he was three and a half years old.. So adorable...  I was babysitting and got called out into the yard and got on a ship and they were very shy.  Then all these Zetas came up and from the middle... from the knees on down, I saw this little set of legs.

I sat dawn and sensed that he was scared.  I sat down and closed my eyes, put my fingers in mouth so he wouldn't be afraid that I was going to bite him. Pulled on my hair,, let him peak at my hair roots, let him poke around me.  Showed him how my joints work... Our joints are a little more fluid than theirs are.  Theirs are more rigid.  They have a higher gravity at their planet and their bodies- although skinny-  are very solid.  I've seen them sort of hop fifteen feet like we would hop two or three inches.  They have strong bones and strong bodies.

And it was so touching... to this day I get weepy when I think about it.

So then later I met him, and he was a grown man.  We were actually chatting in front of Al Gore... and some of his children were there.

So Al Gore has seen the Zeta?

Yea, you know that story about MJ12 and about how Presidents weren't allowed to know about MJ12...

No, I'm not familiar...

 it was some president, I can't remember the name... coming out of MJ12, which was established at the time of Roswell, was very jealous and did not want whoever was going to replace him to be a member of MJ12 and be privy to all this and meet aliens so the rule became that the Vice President could, but the President couldn't...

Plausible deniability?

I don't know why but it rode all the way through...


It makes sense... let's the President say honestly that he didn't know anything about aliens.  Also probably keeps them from having to deal with an idealist President, like the one on The Event...

It could be that or it could just be political jealousy.

Could be.  Maybe it's just the perk of being Vice President... You don't get to sit in the Big Chair but you get to talk to aliens.

Yea, so I saw Gore frequently there and I asked my hybrid son how many children he had.  He said "141 and counting"...

Wow... he gets around...

Yea... Actually these are contributions... you know... DNA contributions.

So you got like 141 grandkids kicking around the galaxy.

Uh yea... probably many more now...

You must love Christmas... Must get real expensive..

(Laughing) Yea.

So it sounds like the Zetas like humans.

Oh sure.  They consider them "teammates".  People say "Oh how do you know that they are the good guys"... well  how do you know your mother loves you.  It's complicated but basically actions speak louder than words and it's the vibes you get from people. Whether it feels cold... you can feel other people's anger... you can pick up their thoughts, ect.  And we're teammates.  So I say that too.

Look at their actions.  They want to empower Mankind with knowledge about what is coming and they really don't like the cover-up.  They really don't like the government  secrecy... that only the rich people and the politically powerful know what’s coming and they are not telling people...

Zetas sound like my kind of people.  So are the zetas a race of alien or are they like an alien federation containing all sorts of different types?

There's something like a few dozen different types of aliens, er Zetas...

So Zeta is a more intergalactic PC term for saying "alien"?

We would say "Homosapian"... There are different varieties and races and cultures and the like but the ones that are visiting us- or at least the ones that are communicating with me- are the Service to Other.  I found the short ones- maybe three and a half feet that look kind of beige and actually where most of the zetas don't talk at all or make any kind of sound these ones will titter like birds when they are talking to each other.  There are six foot tall, steel grey ones and then there's something that's more like.. They have to duck their heads to make it through a doorway.  Does that make them seven, eight foot tall...  very skinny, pumpkin heads, with little round eyes, not big and black.  But they often are in leadership positions.  Why I’m not certain.

Maybe the big head means a big brain...

And they divide their workload often by mutual agreement... who would be good at what.

The Zetas don't seem to have too good an opinion about our governments, how do they feel about the UN?

The UN is aware... I'm often asked "Who knows?"  Well, coming out of Roswell, Russia knew, the British, maybe France because they were aware of UFOs but it got to the point where there was a lot of rumor.  As far as knowledge of  Planet X coming in, by the time Bush had invaded Iraq, going after the oil... it was 2003, he went in early, by the way,  because of a Zeta warning about Planet X coming into the Inner solar system...

So he really wanted to get it done...

evil-bush-sticker12He wanted to be sitting on the oil so that the Bush family and their cronies could be kings of the world afterwards.  Black Gold would rule when all paper money was worthless.  so he went in on a lie but at the same time we were seeing Planet X in the sky, with the second sun rising and setting and the like, and this was getting everyone in the Heads of  State and the like alarmed, so he had that one meeting where everyone met in France- heads of state from around the world-  and it was booked and billed as "Oh we're mending fences over the coalition of the willing... who would and who wouldn't"... some BS.  So what was really going on was that he was telling the heads of state that there was in fact an interloper in the solar system but that it would pass but that there is going to be a few high tides, maybe a few earthquakes.  But the big fear is panic in the public.  You can't let the public know cause they will all run and scream.  They will quit their jobs...

Society would collapse, they would say...

Yea, and that's a complete lie.  The common man, in fact, could handle it quite well.  It's the guys that are rich and politically powerful that fear being bumped off their perch.

That’s what I always thought... Once the initial thought of "Oh snap there is something else in the universe" has died down , humans tend to rally and do very well together.  It’s the Governments that keep us apart.

That's right.  That's the people that are going to panic.  In fact to the extent that the aliens are kind of restricted from just  spelling out for us in the sky, they worry about the people in charge taking their machine guns and mowing down how many millions of people in the streets...

Maintaining control the only way we know how to...

Control freaks will be threatened.  That's what it amounts to.  And until the control freaks are pushed back and in essence are running for their bunkers, they will not be allowed to be completely open with humanity.

It’s a game; a very careful mine field that the aliens came through and trying not to trigger that but at the same time trying to get humanity to be aware.

So the UN is aware and there was something that came out- I can't remember the exact date- but it was an article that was leaked by a French Air Force officer I believe, and he said "I was at these meetings and they were talking about should they tell people about aliens and the issue was that maybe they would have to do that or maybe there could be that disclosure but they would have t be very careful to say if anybody who claims to be in contact with aliens claims to say that we are going to have big geological changes, that person should be branded as a charlatan."


Really?

Yes, well, who else could they be talking about but Zetatalk?  I mean it was so clear.  They didn't say Zetatalk but they made it so clear that they did not want to put approval on Zetatalk because it is too accurate.  But this kind of thing has come out more than once.

It sounds all on the up and up.  Your message, while different because you do tie everything together into one simple explanation,  sounds a lot like the ancient prophecies or even the prophecies of more modern seers, like Nostradamus or Edgar Casey.

Absolutely.  And the Zetas said "Don't look at the differences... look at the similarities.  It's like blind men walking around the elephant and this one has a trunk and this one has a leg and they are going to interpret it slightly differently.  The Hadis in Islam describes the coming Pole Shift.  There's so many- what am I trying to say... Oh, Sheba in India, one of their Hindu gods, and all the symbolism that goes with him is trying to say that this is the God of Destruction and Rebirth.

The God of Death...

And there is tons of symbolism.

Speaking of symbolism, within magic and the occult there is mention of "otherworldly spirits".  Might the Zetas be those otherworldly spirits or are the bi-product of eating too many mushrooms?

Well it depends on Service to Self or Service to Other.  Zetas have said people who hold séances or Ouija boards.. It depends on who you’re calling. Or you put a pentagram on the floor and do Devil Worship... it's the intent in your heart that determines what you will deliver.  If you have evil thoughts, and I use the word "evil” broadly, like something that would be harmful to others but would benefit me, then you are calling the wrong guys.  They'll come down, they can manifest and make you think you are looking at something other than what you are looking at. 

Actually, the Good Guys can do this too.  It's called a "Screen Memory".

You pull over...You’re asked to drive out into the country because you have been called to speak for counseling.  You pull over, you're talking to a Zeta or maybe your contactee is a monkey thing.  but you don't see the alien as what they are instead you say "I found myself on the wrong road and saw an owl in the tree and I rolled my window down and listened to that for a little bit and it was so peaceful.  I felt better after a little while and found my way back to the highway."

Well you didn't see an owl, you saw an alien but it's called a screen memory.  But if you dig deep enough down underneath layers of what your memory is... just layered one on top of the other... you find the real memory. You can do that through self meditation . 

So these guys that are running occult... say yes or no..It depends on their intent... Depends on what they are asking for what comes.

Now a lot of supposedly good stuff is not.  A lot of times, people will talk about "Oh I'm a light worker... in light and love, blah, blah, blah..." that all sounds wonderful.  But when you dig down into it they are telling people 'stare at your navel long enough and you will rise up to be in the higher realms.'

But that's not how it happens. You don't get to sit back and passively get to be obsessed with yourself... You gotta work at it and take risks and help other people and feel their pain and participate in their pain.  it's like sitting at the side of the road while staring at your navel while a bunch of toddlers are in the road about to get run over. Well that guy sitting at the side of the road staring at his navel gets no credit.  That guy who rushed into the road and scooped those toddlers up, who maybe himself gets smacked while tossing a toddler back to its mother gets the credit.  That's the hero.  That’s the one who makes it up the ladder.  

There any truth to the 2012 rumors?

2012 is not necessarily the date.  The Mayan and the Gregorian calendars cannot be lined up with each other...

Obviously...the Gregorian colander was based on the Roman model while the Mayans based their on whatever it was that they based it off of...

Imayan-20've researched this... I’ve looked and looked and challenged people espousing 2012, making money off of the books.  Anything that had 2012 in the heading was allowed to be on the bookshelves big time, where as Zetatalk never was.  It's a false date.  It was touted two or three years ago when 2012 was far enough away that the Government or the establishment felt it was safe, tell everybody it is going to happen at the end of 2012.  They won't quit their jobs, they will still pay taxes and blah, blah. And now that it is getting closer , you can hear them murmur that maybe it is 2013.

There is no way to line up the Gregorian and the Mayan. I looked into this.  it was a very dominant archeologist who-Thompson was his name- and he sort of out shouted everybody else and said "I've decided that this is the date" but they used carbon dating in one instance for characters that were in a temple beam that they found and the error was three to five years either way.  Now how can they be so precise as to say December 21...


Like on the one hand, we are claiming that they divined the year, day, and hour of the end while at  the same time saying that maybe they were off by three or four years...

Yea, and there is nothing that pins it down.  It is a complete educated guess.  And there is still argument today among archeologists so you cannot even say that the Mayan calendar ends on 2012 at all.  So the Zetas say "don't focus on that.  We are telling you what the signs and steps are going to be.  You are going to have the "Seven of Ten"." 

They have said that the first Seven of Ten is gonna happen before the end of 2010.  And that we have three weeks to go and people saying "Indonesia is like lose elevation in like the next three weeks?"

Well there's things that happen every December that are big, like that big 9.5 quake... 2004, December 26...

And that giant tsunami...

tsunami-21Something happens to the Earth magnetically to the Earth on December 17 and thereabouts that is wrenching so [the] Zetas sticking to their guns and I’m saying it for them.  They have said Indonesia is going to lose that elevation big time.  80 feet in Sumatra and Java and forty feet a little further up at the end of this year.  What they're saying is "Look at the signs.  We are telling you..."

The last weeks have been very well detailed by the Zetas and that's of record on my website.  You can go find it.  Just type in "LAST WEEKS" in the search engine.

This is 7.3 weeks all together.  You'll see the thing in the sky, we'll have all kinds of wobbling.  The "Three days of Darkness" and slowing rotation and ohhh... you'll KNOW the hour of the Pole Shift is coming.

Let' hope so... I hear it is going to be quite a show...

It's gonna be...

They (the Zetas) said that 43% of the survivors are going to be at least temporarily insane.  Either very depressed or suffering from post traumatic stress to some degree...

The suffering alone would be unspeakable.

Right... and people dealing with the loss and the horror.  But if you know what's coming, you deal better with it. They're trying to get the word out. 

They said the thing is if you have decided you're going to die... you can't get away from it... Like they said India entirely would sink.  From the hour of the Pole Shift it gets pushed down under the Himalayas.  But, you know, you can't just have one billion people be... migrate elsewhere and, say. Be immigrants and be saved and here comes the boats...  It's not possible because every country is gonna be dealing with disaster...

And there's no place to put anybody...

And the other countries won't accept them. They say "Well too bad."

So, if you know you’re going to die and you can't get away... if you have your loved ones in your arms and ...

Prepare yourself...

drowning22Yea and drowning, by the way, is not painful.  Anxious... you have about three minutes.  How do I know this?  I'll tell you how I know.

I was talking to MJ12 in the early 1990s.  I went into an engagement because, um, well for one thing I guess I was going to be starting Zetatalk, and I did in 1995, and um-

Oh, the first thing they tried to do was get heavy handed.  "Oh, you're a contactee.  You're gonna rite or say what we want you to and-".

But that never flew.  But they tried to torture me.

Did they?

Yea.  It doesn't leave a mark... right, and they press on certain places where there's nerves ganglions or whatever and do that kind of thing where it's extremely painful but [it] doesn't leave a mark or break a bone.  And so part of this was to smother me; Pinch my nose and big hand over the mouth and so...

I know what happens because I was picking up telepathically that they were not supposed to kill me, right...

So I just kind of said "Well I'll just go with it", right...

Wow..

You see the lungs really work... they go {makes rapidly increasing whooshing noise simulating lungs breathing faster and harder as they went}- They're really trying to get air in.  It's an involuntary reflex you cannot stop so that the lungs desperately try to breathe and obviously they would be taking water in. but there's no pain... you blank out.  And it's only... it takes like- I don't know-  a minute or two till you blank out.

Seems kind of humane...

Yea, well, so.. Drowning is not painful.  So all those people in India that are gonna be drowned...

And it will happen so quick, it'll be in a snap...

And if you're not anxious and if you believe in reincarnation and you’re saying to your loved ones "...And I’ll see you next time around..."... that kind of thing, ya know... then  it's not...

It’s no worst that going to the dentist for a tooth repair or getting a shot or a vaccination.

I dunno... I'm pretty scared of going to the dentist... or needles, for that matter...

{Laughing} Poop guy...

So, in your conversations with the Zetas did they ever mention Atlantis?

Yea.  That has come up... it was asked.  And they said that Atlantis was not in the Caribbean, ect... Or maybe down in Antarctica or whatever.  It was off the coast of Europe, to the east.  The coastline there is always dragged out.  Like our Eastern coast, if you look at that from satellites and you look down, you can see a plateau  that goes for hundreds of miles. There’s dead buffalo, tree trunks and stuff like that because the East coast of the US has steadily been pulled down during Pole Shifts as the Atlantic rips open.  The Zetas said there's less support for land on either side of the Atlantic rift after that, so it drops.  Same thing is true off Norway, off Ireland, the UK... there's land out there... you can actually see it, you know... it's shallower than the deep open ocean.

So it's somewhere off Europe that Atlantis was.  And it was where the Annunaki, when they were still on Earth with us, were clustered.  And it was part of trying to force the Annunaki to leave Earth- cause they are quarantined from Earth... the quarantine was affected by making the Annunaki miserable enough that they went off and they're mining Phoebus, one of the moons of Mars.


Is that why everybody is so intent on getting to Phoebus?

Yea, they're there... Inside out.  There’s a lot of gold in that particular moon and they are mining it inside out and that's why the US probes that went to investigate that moon got zapped.  And it's actually of record. Ya know... it's on the internet... I’m not sure where but they show that what the US was seeing.  And here comes their probe and all of the sudden something comes towards them and -BOOP- the probe is dead.

I think I recall seeing something about that...

 so that's where the Annunaki are, maybe some other places in the solar system... but not the Earth... they are not mining for gold here on Earth.

The Annunaki sound a lot like the bad guy aliens from Battlefield: Earth...

battlefiend-earth26Well actually they are peers.  We talk about... you know we have the man... they are hominoids.  So are the Plebeians.  The Plebeians are hominoids.  So are, in fact, the Praying Mantis, which everybody thinks is a bug but they're not... they're hominoid.

So the Annunaki are just another race... another hominoid race transplanted on to Planet X because it can't support life and they are on average eight feet tall- boy- they got the bone  and muscle to go with it.

They sound like really not nice guys... Did they build Stonehenge?

No, that as actually by some other group of aliens that were...  According to the Zetas, they said it’s older than Man thinks... I mean,, how do you do carbon dating on rock that you dug out of some quarry that's been around for how long... 

It's been around since the Earth has been...

You can't carbon date rock.  They said it's very, very old and it was built to intimidate Early Man, who looked at it and said "this table in the center and that must be for, like, sacrifices" because what Early Man would do was maybe cut up a goat or sheep... something like that...

And so they just presumed that it was some sort of sacrificial place ad it made Early Man feel uneasy because they knew it wasn't theirs.  And it was an intimidation technique done by STS Aliens- Service to Self aliens to try to increase the harvest. 

if you make people fearful... you get more people turning to the selfish cause you shout "FIRE!" in a crowded theater babies and little old ladies get trampled.  Nobody... people become fearful and they don't care about others... Push someone else aside to get out.  That's what they were trying to do... increase fears because that increases a potential, future harvest.  the Service to Self prison planets, they are always looking for new recruits... ya know... anyone who gives a call to them, they'll give advice and try to increase the level of hopelessness and lack of empathy and that type of thing. If they get those souls recruited and sorted out, those new souls will be the ones cleaning the toilets while the souls that formerly were doing that get risen up in the hierarchy.  Service to Self are very rule and  hierarchy oriented.

What did the Zetas say about homosexuality?

Homosexuality.. They said they don't discriminate about it.  They don't make a big deal about this.  They said it's a choice.  That’s it's often a choice from a very young child... in other worlds they are talking about the Oedipal thing when a little boy might fear that his father might be angry at him for nothing more than the thought that boy has in his head...

And it can be something as simple as that as far as their concerned... seductive mothers, angry, loud mouthed fathers, ya know the relationship.

But often it is something that they carry forward from the soul... from the past. They prefer to be a woman.  people get incarnated- er- souls get incarnated to either sex- male or female- pretty much equally cause it is a diversity of lessons and experiences.  but some creatures... some souls... do better as a female or do better as a male...and depending on the lessons they face, ya know, the birthing spirits will arrange an incarnation into just male or just female at least for a while so if this particular souls liked being a female and as incarnated as a male and wasn't able to step up to the male role and that type of thing or stepped out or however they might view it, ya know...

And in fact you can influence the brain development by the psychological state.

Makes sense.  Is Bigfoot a Zeta?

No.  Bigfoot is a version of Early Man that did not progress... did not get genetically engineered. And they are under quarantine from ourselves.  They said that Bigfoot was a group of entities- souls- that had ruined their environment and was grieving about this and wanted a long R&R... respite... to think  about what they had done and get in touch with nature again. 

So they took over this version of Early Man, which is like one of our big apes only more intelligent, and is being protected from Mankind, which is why we never find their dead bodies.  We might find a footprint but that's about it.  And they are in a quest for peace.  Their quest is an R&R to get in touch with nature for what they had done to their own world.


Are things like addiction and cancer things we will eventually evolve out of?

Yea as far as I don’t think the Zetas or any other Service to Others culture with things like a cancer. 

zeta16Now cancer is caused, according to the Zetas, almost exclusively by the fact  that a creature- not just Man but animals- is choosing to die and it's inhibiting it's immune system.  And spontaneous remission is where the creature decides to live.  And I have had personal friends that that fits very well.  When they decide to live and made some change in their life to address what's really depressing them and BOOM the cancer just goes away.

Not entirely, of course, cause you can have genetic issues or onslaught of poisons... ya know, I'm not saying that every single cancer but-

Now addictions, they said primarily for humans you have to look at what this person is dealing with... That so much of addiction comes from the lower or under classes...  You know, people are overwhelmed with a lack of opportunity and all kinds of problems... Where's their support system.. That's what the Higher Level cultures would do.

They would address anybody who was tending to be an addict and say "What's wrong with your life?  How can we help?"

So rather than...  Ya know, Of course  medically they are extremely far advanced than us.  They’re not allowed to just come down and heal us.  Our world is a schoolhouse.  We’re not just supposed to have a beautiful life because spiritual growth does not happen if everyone has a beautiful, jet set life... No troubles, the servants bring you whatever you need.  Spiritual growth doesn't happen there.

We learn empathy because we go through things ourselves.  We see others go through it and say "Oh my gosh I got to help you because I was there and remember what it felt like".   And then you become Service to Other... through that type of thing.  If nobody ever has a tribulation very little spiritual growth happens. It’s the staring at the navel thing. It's not an intellectual exercise.  You have to experience it and its taking action.  And those things don't happen without tribulation.

Are Horoscopes real?

They said that there's a relationship to reality in that a baby born in the middle of winter, for instance when capper corns develop... all swaddled up, everyone's all depressed, skies are gloomy.  Ya know, baby born in the middle of July... the windows are open, it's sunny we'll put the baby in the grass and everybody's happy and eating fruit.

The people around the new born baby are influencing its mindset. 

gypsy23To that degree, horoscopes have validity.  But they said that it's not the influence of planets here or there regardless of what anyone may claim.  I went to a palm reader once for fun. We were bored and I took the kids to a palm reader and she was amazing.  She read my mind... she was very astute about people... psychology what makes people tick.  What you might need in your life... what you might long for... she glanced at my hand briefly and then rattled on reading my mind for thirty minutes.  She wasn't reading my palm... she was reading my mind.  A lot of people have to have a vehicle for their information that they want to relay...

So they can be just a gypsy as opposed to a freak with magical powers...

Yea or somebody who knows how the planets are lining up and then we'll make a prediction.  But it has nothing to do with the planets...

So you have given us a lot of information. Is there anything that we can plug for you?

No.  Just visit the Zetatalk site. Z-E-T-A-T-A-L-K.  com and check on the Q&A for the most recent Zetatalk listed out and I have tried to make thirty five videos... maybe forty now... visit the site but remember I’m not necessarily going to answer your email.  Lately I have had so much on my plate.

zetatalk

Sounds like it... you gotta warn the world that the End is near...

Six billion people...

That's a lot of people...

And they can't all email me...

You'd go crazy trying to keep up with answering that.  Thanks so much for your time ma'am.

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